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Get an ES&S iVoTronic. Three processors (each with its own memory channel), heavily shielded chassis, NSA-certified cryptographic co-processors.

GUNSHOTS BY COMPUTER!

patginsd Sorry to say, as a jack of all trades, Anything with a screw in it can be unscrewed anything with a bolt in it can be unbolted. Hand counted ballots have had numerous accounts of “forgery”. Look it up!!! The way of the future is to move forward make it better not throw it away. Stiffling innovation and subjecting fear is all this is accomplishing. Paper trail buys you nothing? Yet you want paper ballots? Hello? You are either ignorant of the facts or out of your gord.

The only problem is I doubt they are going to count the paper the computer could still have that first vote in it’s memory as your vote and they aren’t going to check the paper to make sure you voted that way.

It’s not really that scary. All these scenarios are based on the loading of a malicious piece of software through a USB key. That could be eliminated through the use of encryption with a password, selected and entered by the election official. Now, as always with any security system, you have to trust someone at sometime. This is true, even of paper ballots. You trust that the people counting the votes are not adding or removing ballots.

Micro-Soft Windows. anymore reason to switch?

Voting should not be done with Electronics…let alone with a M$ OS running it.

Very informative and scary!

My question is 2 seconds? How long was the prework and did they forget to tally? Seems like a Micheal Moore story. If you give me the software (3+ months)and access to the vault I could be rich. Red team attack. I don’t believe that there is a 100% method and corruption in politics is a time honored tradition in America, attack the corruption!? Not rap music!! Paper???, who here could manipulate paper?

in a 49/51% climate they only need to steal 2 out of every one hundred votes. This hack represents only one tiny fraction of the vote stealing systems they have in place. If you reveal and count ALL of the stolen votes (as we’ve seen in the past) there is still the problem that… Bush and Co succeeded in the firing of swing State attorney generals while attempting to replace ALL of them at once… because STATE ATTORNEY GENERALS CAN DECIDE NOT TO SEE VOTE FRAUD CASES and decide elections.

no they’ll just use the one provided, but who checks that those aren’t infected by design…

Sorry to say, as a computer programmer, I KNOW that EVEN if you check the paper printout and it matches what you tried to vote for, you STILL don’t know what the machines recorded as your votes. A paper trail buys you NOTHING. Your vote has become an electronic trail. Can YOU read electronic trails???
KISS YOUR VOTES GOODBYE.
DEMAND PAPER BALLOTS HAND-COUNTED AT THE POLLS!
NO MOVING THE BALLOTS BEFORE THEY ARE COUNTED IN PUBLIC AND REPORTED IN PUBLIC.

So the lesson learned is Always check your vote on the paper record if the machine your area uses provides it. That way even if there is a hacker or a bug in the system you know your vote was cast properly.
If you are an election official LOOK at the paper tape and if there are a lot of VOID marks count it manually to be sure.

awesome . . . finally this video is on. I sent it to my some friends, and they were angry and shocked.

It might be good at the outset to say to those who poo-poo the possibility that elections CAN indeed be stolen, that they are mistaken. And further, even if all you show is a lack of curiosity, that would be indicative of someone who is just plain lazy or is so full of kool-aid that even if Inner-city Baltimore returns a 60-40 McCain victory would pass it off as “not happy with Obama” or some other idiotic wingnut rat-bastard meme.

thx 4 putting it up. poor guys got their server /.’ed.

McCain and Obama have their votes rigged already. Our only hope is to vote for Independents like Ralph Nader.

He’d never put up with this crap!

Get an ES&S iVoTronic. Three processors (each with its own memory channel), heavily shielded chassis, NSA-certified cryptographic co-processors.

GUNSHOTS BY COMPUTER!

patginsd Sorry to say, as a jack of all trades, Anything with a screw in it can be unscrewed anything with a bolt in it can be unbolted. Hand counted ballots have had numerous accounts of “forgery”. Look it up!!! The way of the future is to move forward make it better not throw it away. Stiffling innovation and subjecting fear is all this is accomplishing. Paper trail buys you nothing? Yet you want paper ballots? Hello? You are either ignorant of the facts or out of your gord.

The only problem is I doubt they are going to count the paper the computer could still have that first vote in it’s memory as your vote and they aren’t going to check the paper to make sure you voted that way.

It’s not really that scary. All these scenarios are based on the loading of a malicious piece of software through a USB key. That could be eliminated through the use of encryption with a password, selected and entered by the election official. Now, as always with any security system, you have to trust someone at sometime. This is true, even of paper ballots. You trust that the people counting the votes are not adding or removing ballots.

Micro-Soft Windows. anymore reason to switch?

Voting should not be done with Electronics…let alone with a M$ OS running it.

Very informative and scary!

My question is 2 seconds? How long was the prework and did they forget to tally? Seems like a Micheal Moore story. If you give me the software (3+ months)and access to the vault I could be rich. Red team attack. I don’t believe that there is a 100% method and corruption in politics is a time honored tradition in America, attack the corruption!? Not rap music!! Paper???, who here could manipulate paper?

in a 49/51% climate they only need to steal 2 out of every one hundred votes. This hack represents only one tiny fraction of the vote stealing systems they have in place. If you reveal and count ALL of the stolen votes (as we’ve seen in the past) there is still the problem that… Bush and Co succeeded in the firing of swing State attorney generals while attempting to replace ALL of them at once… because STATE ATTORNEY GENERALS CAN DECIDE NOT TO SEE VOTE FRAUD CASES and decide elections.

no they’ll just use the one provided, but who checks that those aren’t infected by design…

Sorry to say, as a computer programmer, I KNOW that EVEN if you check the paper printout and it matches what you tried to vote for, you STILL don’t know what the machines recorded as your votes. A paper trail buys you NOTHING. Your vote has become an electronic trail. Can YOU read electronic trails???
KISS YOUR VOTES GOODBYE.
DEMAND PAPER BALLOTS HAND-COUNTED AT THE POLLS!
NO MOVING THE BALLOTS BEFORE THEY ARE COUNTED IN PUBLIC AND REPORTED IN PUBLIC.

So the lesson learned is Always check your vote on the paper record if the machine your area uses provides it. That way even if there is a hacker or a bug in the system you know your vote was cast properly.
If you are an election official LOOK at the paper tape and if there are a lot of VOID marks count it manually to be sure.

awesome . . . finally this video is on. I sent it to my some friends, and they were angry and shocked.

It might be good at the outset to say to those who poo-poo the possibility that elections CAN indeed be stolen, that they are mistaken. And further, even if all you show is a lack of curiosity, that would be indicative of someone who is just plain lazy or is so full of kool-aid that even if Inner-city Baltimore returns a 60-40 McCain victory would pass it off as “not happy with Obama” or some other idiotic wingnut rat-bastard meme.

thx 4 putting it up. poor guys got their server /.’ed.

McCain and Obama have their votes rigged already. Our only hope is to vote for Independents like Ralph Nader.

He’d never put up with this crap!